{"id":1685,"date":"2021-07-18T14:14:48","date_gmt":"2021-07-18T14:14:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/?p=1685"},"modified":"2021-07-18T14:14:48","modified_gmt":"2021-07-18T14:14:48","slug":"eerie-happenings-occur-when-researching-ancestors","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/?p=1685","title":{"rendered":"Eerie Happenings Occur When Researching Ancestors"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"43\" src=\"https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/TCT-1024x43.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1686\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/TCT-1024x43.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/TCT-300x13.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/TCT-768x32.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/TCT-1536x64.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/TCT-1200x50.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/TCT.jpg 1836w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-DLWDESH0H9I\/YPLSv53q3FI\/AAAAAAAAazY\/DeYqk53T36I2X1YVgc--K9SgWD1ssmv3wCLcBGAsYHQ\/s1836\/TCT.JPG\"><\/a><\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Partial Clip from U.S., Army, Register of Enlistments, 1798-1914, Thomas Thompson, digital image; Ancesry.com:&nbsp; accessed 17 July 2021, image 402 of 440; citing NARA M233.<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One of the things I love about genealogy is the weird occurrences that happen.&nbsp;&nbsp;I had planned to write about a local mystery but two strange events happened to me this week that I think you\u2019ll find interesting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Last week, I blogged about The Forgotten Ones project for the Daughters of Union Veterans of the Civil War.&nbsp;&nbsp;While researching Thomas Charles Thompson I came across a document that may or may not be his father, Thomas Coke Thompson.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These folks are my husband\u2019s relatives and whenever I work on that line strange things happen.&nbsp;&nbsp;The pattern continues\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The document I found is shown above.&nbsp;&nbsp;Thomas Coke was known to be in the Albany, New York area at the time the document was made.&nbsp;&nbsp;He married first, Elizabeth and had several children.&nbsp;&nbsp;Only Thomas Charles lived to adulthood but died before Thomas Coke.&nbsp;&nbsp;Census and death records state that Thomas Coke was born in New York City but I\u2019ve never found a record for him or his parents.&nbsp;&nbsp;The document above caught my eye because the same location, name used in other records (he never used Coke) and age.&nbsp;&nbsp;What stood out to me was that he was a musician born in Great Britain. The Thomas Coke in our family tree was a ship\u2019s carpenter when he moved to Chicago.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I forwarded the document to my husband\u2019s cousins who I have met over the years through online research.&nbsp;&nbsp;One stated she wasn\u2019t interested.&nbsp;&nbsp;Another thanked me immensely.&nbsp;&nbsp;The third replied that she wished her mom was alive to see and ponder it \u2013 her mom\u2019s birthday would be 2 days after I made the find.&nbsp;&nbsp;I replied to the 3<sup>rd<\/sup>&nbsp;cousin that I had thought of her mom the prior week when I wrote to a colleague who wanted information for an upcoming book he was writing on cemetery re-internments.&nbsp;&nbsp;In reviewing my notes I found an email from a cemetery that mentioned the 3<sup>rd<\/sup>&nbsp;cousin\u2019s mother who had written to correct a mistake in the cemetery record.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A few days after I emailed the 3<sup>rd<\/sup>&nbsp;cousin, she replied she wasn\u2019t feeling that the document was for Thomas Coke.&nbsp;&nbsp;After all, Thomas Thompson is a common name.&nbsp;&nbsp;Although that is true, in the Albany 1830 US Federal census there are only 5 Thomas Thompsons in that area; 3 are Black, 1 is old and 1 is of the age of the man who enlisted.&nbsp;&nbsp;What doesn\u2019t fit is the name of the next of kin on the form (clip above not showing it).&nbsp;&nbsp;No record of this individual anywhere and none of the cousins have heard of her.&nbsp;&nbsp;Certainly more research is needed but for now it\u2019s on hold until I\u2019m able to revisit NARA next spring.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The 3<sup>rd<\/sup>&nbsp;cousin decided to look through her records and found several photos from the 1860\u2019s that she didn\u2019t recall sharing with me.&nbsp;&nbsp;One was of Elizabeth Williams, sister of Drusilla who had married 2<sup>nd<\/sup>&nbsp;Thomas Coke.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At the same time 3<sup>rd<\/sup>&nbsp;cousin was emailing me the picture, I received another email that I had a message on MyHeritage.&nbsp;&nbsp;I assumed it was a response for WW2 pictures as I had contacted a number of tree owners looking for photos for the Fields of Honors project in the Netherlands.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don\u2019t know why but something told me to respond to the 3<sup>rd<\/sup>&nbsp;cousin after reviewing all my emails.&nbsp;&nbsp;I logged onto MyHeritage and was astounded to discover a message from a 3 times great granddaughter of Elizabeth Williams.&nbsp;&nbsp;She was thanking me for putting info on the tree.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Before answering, I decided to check my personal email to read the 3<sup>rd<\/sup>&nbsp;cousins\u2019 information.&nbsp;&nbsp;That\u2019s when I discovered the picture of Elizabeth.&nbsp;&nbsp;I emailed both of my husband\u2019s cousins to connect them and uploaded the picture to Ancestry, which is where my Main Tree is located.&nbsp;&nbsp;That\u2019s the tree I keep updated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, if that wasn\u2019t enough of the eebee jeebees for you, two days later the following happened\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Summer is my family\u2019s lean time as we don\u2019t receive a paycheck.&nbsp;&nbsp;Unfortunately for us, we\u2019ve had some major expenses.&nbsp;&nbsp;We had budgeted for the ones we knew about (replacing a deck, renovating the side yard) but not for others (reconstructing a coop, a plumbing issue we didn\u2019t even know was a problem).&nbsp;&nbsp;After shelling out a couple of hundred dollars to a pest control company to get rid of the varmints that had eaten the deck and coop and infested an appliance, a remembrance of my grandmother, Mary Koss, came to me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When I was dating my husband in high school I was adamant I was never going to get married.&nbsp;&nbsp;I had never seen a happy couple.&nbsp;&nbsp;I\u2019m serious \u2013 most of my older relatives were divorced or in miserable marriages.&nbsp;&nbsp;One day after my then boyfriend left, my grandmother said to me, \u201cYou\u2019d be a fool not to marry him.&nbsp;&nbsp;You\u2019ll never find anyone better.\u201d&nbsp;&nbsp;I know I though she was nuts at the time but you didn\u2019t argue with Grandma so I didn\u2019t respond.&nbsp;&nbsp;She has proven to be right.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Grandma loved to be right and was not shy about making sure everyone knew she had predicted what was going to occur.&nbsp;&nbsp;My thoughts of that day came about because my dear husband never ever has complained to me about spending money, even when it\u2019s tight.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This jogged my brain into calling our power company as I wanted to change our automatic payment method.&nbsp;&nbsp;I tried to do this online but I was directed to call the company.&nbsp;&nbsp;While waiting for a human, I decided to clean out my emails and I saw that Ancestry had sent me one with their latest record updates.&nbsp;&nbsp;It happened to be for Ellis Island\/Castle Gardens.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Since I had thought about my grandmother I decided to enter in her information which I\u2019ve seen before. I just wanted to check if there was something new.&nbsp;&nbsp;Coincidentally, the date my grandmother had arrived on Ellis Island just happened to be the day I was checking the record.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">OHHH \u2013 weird \u2013 her birthday was coming up in 2 days and I hadn\u2019t noticed before that she had made herself older on the form \u2013 claimed to be a teenager of 13 when she was still 12 for two more days.&nbsp;&nbsp;That made me laugh.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But the weirdness doesn\u2019t end there\u2026The customer service rep came on the line and asked my name.&nbsp;&nbsp;When I told her she responded by spelling my first name correctly.&nbsp;&nbsp;No one does that as there is several ways to spell Lori.&nbsp;&nbsp;I didn\u2019t think much of that but as we got into the call she had to speak to my husband as she couldn\u2019t find that I had access to the account.&nbsp;&nbsp;This always annoys me but I put my husband on who told her he has given my information on several occasions and to please correct it for the future.&nbsp;&nbsp;The customer service rep said, \u201cThere is someone else on the account, do you know who that could be?\u201d&nbsp;&nbsp;My husband asked me and then it hit me \u2013 it was probably my birth certificate name that I never use.&nbsp;&nbsp;I gave the woman that name and she said, \u201cYes, that\u2019s it.&nbsp;&nbsp;I didn\u2019t think you were the same person as my mother is named (with your birth certificate name) and my aunt with the name you go by.\u201d&nbsp;&nbsp;So, this explained how she could spell Lori correctly.&nbsp;&nbsp;I told her that I always asked my mom why they named me as they had when they called me something else.&nbsp;&nbsp;My mom\u2019s reply was that she didn\u2019t know, I was supposed to be named Patty Ann after her friend but when she looked at me after my birth the other name just popped into her head. She never met anyone with my birth certificate name and can\u2019t explain why she thought of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After years of doing genealogy, I was shocked to learn that my father\u2019s family was from a European province that is the same as my real name.&nbsp;&nbsp;I doubted my mom would know that as she had always told me my father was Germany, English, Scotts-Irish and Welsh.&nbsp;&nbsp;The province is not located in any of those areas.&nbsp;&nbsp;I know he never knew of the province as he always told me his ancestry was German and British.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&nbsp;&nbsp;thought maybe my mom had heard the name and it was somewhere in her head where the euphoria of childbirth brought it forth. Now, because of what next occurred, I\u2019m thinking that is a real possibility.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After using the Ancestry.com search for my grandmother, grandfather, great grandmother and great uncle I decided to try to find my great grandfather who had emigrated before his wife and two children.&nbsp;&nbsp;I had a little trouble in that I was entering Croatia as his birth place.&nbsp;&nbsp;I should have left that blank.&nbsp;&nbsp;It finally dawned on me he would have said Austria as that was the country at the time.&nbsp;&nbsp;My grandmother, a vocal almost teen ager and being for Croatia separation from Austria-Hungary, had stated she was from Croatia so I just didn\u2019t think initially to change it.&nbsp;&nbsp;It made sense he would have provided different information as he had been in the Austrian Calvary.&nbsp;&nbsp;(HINT TO SELF-When searching, try to think like the individual that provided the record information and not what you know of the individual). His information&nbsp;&nbsp;tells me he didn\u2019t think of himself as Croatian first; he had allegiance to the governing country probably due to his military service..<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When I found my great grandfather Josip Kos\u2019 record I was astounded to see that the ship he sailed to America on was my birth certificate name.&nbsp;&nbsp;Wow!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I had seen the document before but it never clicked. My great grandfather died during the previous pandemic and I had just thought about him when I got my pneumonia vaccine last week.&nbsp;&nbsp;He got the flu but died of pneumonia.&nbsp;&nbsp;Although my mom was a baby when he died, perhaps she had heard this ship\u2019s name and recalled it for who knows what reason when I was born.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Or, just maybe, he whispered it into her ear and she wrote it on my birth certificate.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Who knows?!&nbsp;&nbsp;All I can tell you for sure is that I just really enjoy these creepy coincidences.&nbsp;&nbsp;Christmas in July? Nope, with my family I\u2019ve got Halloween early!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Partial Clip from U.S., Army, Register of Enlistments, 1798-1914, Thomas Thompson, digital image; Ancesry.com:&nbsp; accessed 17 July 2021, image 402 of 440; citing NARA M233. One of the things I love about genealogy is the weird occurrences that happen.&nbsp;&nbsp;I had planned to write about a local mystery but two strange events happened to me this &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/?p=1685\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Eerie Happenings Occur When Researching Ancestors&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[17],"tags":[965,523,938,907,966,964],"class_list":["post-1685","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-brick-walls","tag-albany-new-york","tag-coincidence","tag-joseph-koss","tag-mary-koss","tag-military","tag-thomas-coke-thompson"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1685","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1685"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1685\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1687,"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1685\/revisions\/1687"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1685"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1685"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogyatheart.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1685"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}